hey man thanks for the tip...i would also like to add that i am not an EARLY RISER SO 80% OF my efforts are spent from 12:00 noon till sun down. some times ill reel and jig reel and jig. sometimes ill reel steady speed and sometimes ill reel super fast skipping and popping..i have almost every color and walk far distances, white water,70+ feet to 15ft ledges,high cliff ,knee deep in water........i am king of chasers and NO TAKERZ...lol...someday!